When it comes to depression, people shut down. They do because they don’t want to talk to someone who doesn’t understand. People who do not understand try to help, but they more often than not say the wrong or not helpful thing. They see life from their perspective and say what would help them. It takes having struggled with depression and conquering it to understand what to say and what not to say. This is why I believe that most counselors or therapists can’t help. They have not been through it. It takes more than empathy. I did depression for nearly 40 years. I have risen above it. Help is available here: https://lylcoach.lchlegacy.com/